Chris Evans and Co. Want the X-Men in Marvel Cinematic Universe

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After getting Spider-Man back, a lot of Marvel fans want the X-Men to join MCU as well. Check out what Chris Evans, Sebastian Stan, and Anthony Mackie had to say about the mutants.

During their panel at Wizard World Philadelphia, the cast of Captain America: Civil War was eager to have the X-Men be part of the MCU fold. When asked about the X-Men they would like to work with Anthony Mackie, who plays Falcon in the MCU, was quick to name Halle Berry. Halle played the role of Storm in the X-Men franchise, but Anthony doesn’t even care which mutant she plays as long as she joins the MCU. “She can be Wolverine. She can be Cyclops. She can be whoever she wants,” said Anthony.

Sebastian Stan (Winter Soldier) chose the mutant Mystique while Chris Evans (Captain America) would like to work with Michael Fassbender who plays a younger version of Sir Ian McKellen’s Magneto. They were also excited about Deadpool.

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Fox recently released X-Men: Apocalypse. The reception for the film has been mediocre at best, which comes as a disappointment considering it’s the ninth installment in the series. Even though I’m a fan of the X-Men franchise I didn’t enjoy the movie, and the box office haul is under what Fox predicted. Not to mention that the timeline is a mess! Fox needs to decide what it wants to do with the mutants. There are plans to continue the main franchise along with a spin-off titled New Mutants. Hugh Jackman starrer Wolverine 3 is also set to be released next year.

The studio saw unexpected success with Deadpool, which goes to show that the audience is still interested in the franchise. However, Fox needs to provide them with something fresh in order to keep them engrossed. With numerous superhero films out there, the competition is tough and Fox needs to make the right decisions or else the X-Men franchise could share a fate similar to Fant4stic Four.

MCU already has its own versions of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. That is why, if Disney wants, they can also add Wolverine and Storm to the MCU because even though they are mutants they have been known to be members of the Avengers. Let’s see what happens.

What do you think? Would you like to see the X-Men be part of the MCU? Let us know.

(via Comic Book)

Author: Farid-ul-Haq

Farid has a Double Masters in Psychology and Biotechnology as well as an M.Phil in Molecular Genetics. He is the author of numerous books including Missing in Somerville, and The Game Master of Somerville. He gives us insight into comics, books, TV shows, anime/manga, video games, and movies.


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Farid has a Double Masters in Psychology and Biotechnology as well as an M.Phil in Molecular Genetics. He is the author of numerous books including Missing in Somerville, and The Game Master of Somerville. He gives us insight into comics, books, TV shows, anime/manga, video games, and movies.

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  1. With James Cameron’s success with Avatar 1-5 of Fox, and the new found success of the X franchises with the partial reboot, Disney’s Marvel Studios may want to team up with Fox to bring Fox into their canon with Sony. You’re talking to someone that can turn Coke into Pepsi and vice versa.

    Fox’s Deadpool with a production budget of $58 million made $763 million total worldwide box office gross. Deadpool is going to be a huge part of making X-Force, New Mutants, X-Factor, Generation X, and X-Men a lot more popular where he’ll also appear in those franchises. Days of the Future Past did really well too to improve X franchises’ financial success and popularity which Days of the Future Past is just the very beginning of that. X-Men 5: Days of Future Past made $747 million in total worldwide box office gross with a production budget of $200 million.

    The transformers canon will be transforming alot and it will show this transformation significantly by Transformers 7 in 2019. Transformers 6 is the Bumblebee movie. I think Paramount may keep Transformers and TMNT separate from MCU, but Paramount has a Hasbro based Marvel canon.

    Paramount may stay centered on their Hasbro Marvel canon: Paramount Studios and Hasbro will create a shared universe combining their current G.I. Joe franchise with the Micronauts, Visionaries, Jem, M.A.S.K, and ROM to go along with Transformers and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles all as a Marvel franchise a lot from the 1980s and early 1990s Marvel comics of those series. Jem may or may not pan out.

    That means that Paramount will take a lot of the story canon from the Marvel comics of the 1980s to early 1990s of Transformers, GI Joe, and Rom canon. While Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles wasn’t apart of Marvel canon, in the movie Universe it’s going to be apart of a Hasbro Marvel canon. The comic stories for Transformers, GI Joe, and Rom were very well written to where Transformers’ strongest likeness and portrayal are actually in the Marvel comics.

    They can easily combine that with the MCU if they wanted to as Rom involves the Celestials of Marvel Universe. Chicago is just messed up in the Transformers movie Universe in Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon, which that’s the only canon detail they need to look at if combining with MCU to where in MCU, Chicago could have been messed up for a period of time already. Marvel comics also animated 1986 Transformers: The Movie and 1987 GI Joe: The Movie. Chicago is probably fully rebuilt by now.

    Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg by Transformers 7 will have a very strong direction with other writers and directors, where it’s no longer just their vision and it’s a vision of an entire crew to change entirely. I thought 2014’s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was very good, but 2016’s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles shows how they can make a huge level of transformation like the cartoon canon right away. They would still take stuff from Mirage, Archie, Image, Dreamwave, and IDW comics canon of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles as well as the cartoon. I’ve even explained in detail how that can be done while staying true to the most popular interpretation of the team. Zack Snyder is like Michael Bay where Zack Snyder needs to be paired with executive producers, directors, writers, and executives while Zack Snyder directs some of the DC Warner Brothers movies. Michael Bay has a record of good directed movies and so does Zack Snyder somewhat who’s a lot greener and hasn’t had nearly as much experience with other directors.

    Michael Bay isn’t always director while he’s still apart of the creative process as executive producer with Steven Spielberg such as Michael Bay was executive producer and oversaw the process of both Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movies while they both had different directors. Even if Michael Bay directs Transformers 5, 6, and 7, there’s now a much stronger influence of a writer’s room of many writers including the partial reboot with all of the massive additions and changes with a lot more interaction and input from the executives. Steven Spielberg and Michael Bay are both really good too when they’re paired with overseeing other directors and writers as executive producers where Michael Bay knows the special effects, Steven Spielberg knows creativity, production quality, and direction, the director has the creative vision, and the writers have the writing.

    Fox’s X-Men already had a partial reboot with X-Men 5: Days of the Future Past. X-Men Origins: Wolverine can no longer be canon at all because of Deadpool’s age in the movie Deadpool. The parents of MCU’s Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch could have named their children after the original mutants because they were fans of them. Then MCU’s Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch wanted to have the same powers which is why they went through New HYDRA. Or Scarlet Witch isn’t apart of Fox’s canon yet while they just showed Fox Quicksilver’s sister. In The Wolverine, Viper could have lived who is Madame Hydra or Madame Hydra in MCU will be a separate character than Viper.

    I can easily explain the canon issues with Last Stand. In X-2, Mr. Sinister took the unconscious Jean Grey to have genetic research with her. He also got help from Shadow King to keep her subdued, while they both work for Apocalypse. Nathaniel Essex made a sabotaged clone Madelyne Pryor who thinks she’s the real Jean Grey and has no memories of Mr. Sinister or their location. She couldn’t control the DNA sabotaged anger and transported the mutants to a psionic realm that Shadow King is in charge of, but she thought she vaporized them all.

    To make Nathan Dayspring Summers, Nathaniel Essex had to take the 15% good remaining eggs since 85% of the eggs are bad in a woman’s ovaries when she’s the age of 35 years old or older. Nathaniel Essex may have extracted the eggs from her in 2003 when she was 33 years old which in 2018 she would be 48 years old. She’s 16 years old in 1983. He can’t clone Cable because he needs a non-clone, but he took the best samples and then made genetic alterations to augment Cable a lot more since En Sabah Nur wants to inhabit that body when Nathan Dayspring Summers is a young adult.

    Rachel Summers could have been born sometime before Jean Grey was 35 years old, or they could make Rachel Summers the twin-sister of Cable (not identical twins where one appears more like Scott Summers and the other more like Jean Grey) where Nathaniel Essex wanted Rachel Summers as a gift (like how he kept X-Man Nate Grey hidden in Age of Apocalypse) for his further genetic experimentation. When she got older she escaped. Like Nathaniel Dayspring Summers, Nathaniel Essex named Nathaniel Grey in the Age of Apocalypse alternate reality after himself of his first name. Nathan’s last name is from Scott Summers, and Nate’s last name is from Jean Grey.

    Similar events can still take place after the time alteration except that the government incident in Last Stand (like House of M) didn’t happen. Stryker’s attack in 2003 still happened, and a much bigger plot like X-Tinction Agenda can unfold once they build up to X-Factor and it could be over 5 years down the line after a combined set of Civil War movies of Marvel Studios, Sony, and Fox based on one of the biggest and longest comic storylines of all time that can be both the Superhuman Registration Act and Mutant Registration Act being enacted together. Age of Apocalypse and X-Cutioner’s Song are also really good stories to work into. Some ideas of Mutant Massacre can be created getting away from just the physical nature, and getting more into the characters and writing of the sub-culture Morlocks and Marauders who are underground mutant gangs.

    The team still had huge problems with Madelyne Pryor with similar events between her and the X-Men. Cyclops was kidnapped by Nathaniel Essex when Madelyne Pryor transported Cyclops to the psionic realm. Rachel Summers with the Phoenix Force frees the mutants from Mr. Sinister’s captivity and takes the young God mutant baby, Nathan Dayspring Summers, to the 39th century while also taking Cyclops and Jean Grey there for 12 years to raise him which Scott Summers and Jean Grey returned in 2018. Madelyne Pyror still dies in 2006 but then becomes Goblin Queen in Limbo with N’Astirh and S’ym learning new astral powers to better contain her sabotaged DNA Phoenix Force. She still haunts Wolverine’s dreams from Limbo.

  2. For the past two weeks X-Men: Apocalypse hasn’t made quite as much as Days of Future Past but it has about the same patterns in the box office. It could have meant to take a break from the level of Days of Future Past while the partial reboot of the Fox X series lineup is rebuilding with the beginning new found success such as Days of Future Past and Deadpool. Days of Future Past took two months to make all it would make while Captain America 3: Civil War makes everything in the first month because it’s becoming a lot more popular to buy tickets in advance for the entire year. Buying tickets in advance hasn’t picked up with the X franchises so it may make a slow but steady gross by two months time. They didn’t take nearly enough of my advice. As far as movie history goes, Mummy and Mummy Returns are far better. If Apocalypse is used right he can go a far way.

    I too am skeptical about this movie and it just wasn’t good like Days of Future Past. It literally copied X-Men: Evolution while ignoring major history canon development it killed off which the movies can still be salvaged. It barely had a story to it. One of the first things I said a year ago or more is to make it nothing like X-Men: Evolution, and nothing like X-Men: Evolution Apocalypse storyline, for revenue success reasons. Most of the movie was a direct copy of the Apocalypse X-Men: Evolution storyline that’s nothing like the comics.

    Apocalypse at the end of Days of Future Past looked very promising when they showed him as a child already with pharaoh status atleast 10,000 years ago or more with his immortal four horsemen. I think based on the end cutscene that Mr. Sinister Nathaniel Essex is going to take the mutant samples, and many others, to take an omega class genius mutant, add the mutant samples to his DNA, and have a ritual for the consciousness of En Sabah Nur Apocalypse to inhabit the body and mind. Then we can get an Apocalypse who’s a lot more physical and strategizing, like getting into the comic story arcs.

    That’s also because he loses his X-Men: Evolution psionic abilities that are really cheap and there’s not much writing that can be done with that. He still has psionic abilities just not to that level or atleast it just wasn’t his style to use them as it went against his teachings to abuse them. Apocalypse cannot inhabit a clone, and they can’t clone a body for him to inhabit. Mr. Sinister could take the best egg and sperm samples, modify and optimize the DNA codes also adding the other powerful mutant DNA samples to it, rapidly age the immortal body to adulthood, and then have the ritual for the consciousness spirit of Apocalypse to inhabit the body.

    Apocalypse can team up with the manipulative crude Shadow King also to give Apocalypse psychic protection from Charles Xavier. What’s cool about Apocalypse is that he goes into a lot of canon to where it’s not always the Fall of Mutants storyline. I would like to see a Blood of Apocalypse movie, and a series of Age of Apocalypse movies where they could put that into other team movies while having something different with X-Men. It could be too soon for either where they can hold off on those as you don’t want too much evil Magneto and too much Apocalypse as central villain. Apocalypse can be built up on the side to lead into other good plots with Apocalypse who is one of the main characters of X-Men canon.

    X-Factor could change things up in a modern timeline X-Men movie to involve Apocalypse again but that also gets into Stryfe and Mr. Sinister. Apocalypse in the 39th century is also cool and there’s so much more going on in the 39th century than Apocalypse alone. It was cool to see Weapon X and Phoenix. Psylocke is who she is and is a good side character, but hasn’t factored into canon that much while the fighting scenes are good. If you notice the modern timeline (near future) segments in movie Days of Future Past is way better than the past timeline segments, and that’s also why it’s way more financially successful than First Class. There’s only so much they can do with Psylocke but her likeness was really good. I find Blink much more fascinating that was cool in Days of Future Past.

    That’s the best possible portrayal of Psylocke that they can have. Quicksilver was funny but short lived as only one brief scene in the movie. Psylocke is good action and eye candy, but not a comic character that has much personality to where too many characters like that per movie makes the movies dry. It sucks that they cut out Jubilee’s scenes, the movie could have been a lot more successful with Jubilee’s scenes in there. If the 1992 movie that comes in two years sticks to the formula, like how they stuck to the Days of Future Past formula, a lot of audiences want to see the 1992 version of X-Men you can’t get in the modern timeline. They just need to deliver. Master Mold, Graydon Creed, and Genosha would be a cool enemy plot. There can be a hidden conspiracy with Genosha that was made to look like a mutant haven but is actually like a concentration camp that enslaves mutants to also take their DNA samples.

    Mutants are being hunted down by Sentinels and they’re no longer safe on the streets, while the governments lie to their parents and tell them that they’re taking them to a better place spawning a lot more of the mutant hysteria. These sentinels are the standard clumsy collateral damage giants instead of the futuristic sentinels, while these sentinels can fly and hover it’s very expensive to do so where they walk and run most of the time with very imposing robotic voices who are sentient artificial intelligence directly linked to Master Mold as a hive mind. Giant bulky sentinels are a lot scarier and imposing to their mutant targets while it also makes the humans feel safer after the near genocidal threat of Apocalypse almost 10 years before.

    I think they killed Graydon Creed in 2000 which could have been changed to time alteration (that wouldn’t factor into 1992), while Senator Kelly was very good willed. Shi’ar and Deathbird would also be a cool plotline. In the modern timeline they can get to Cameron Hodge, more sentinels, other military forces, and more Genosha but this time it also gets into betrayal and X-Tinction Agenda where it’s a different enough story to still have those same settings where that story also brings in X-Factor, Apocalypse’s spaceship, and the X-Tower.

    Days of Future Past, The Wolverine, and Deadpool show that X-Men sells if it’s done right. The actors did their part but the writing wasn’t there. In the 1992 and modern timeline Marauders and Morlocks are also good. Those could be two separate stories instead of like Days of Future Past. Days of Future Past shows that Bryan Singer can put together a successful formula but X-Men 6: Apocalypse shows not always like Superman Returns. I like his willingness to get deep into X-Men mythos. You can see the willingness of the actors too.

  3. Like if Captain America were captured by the Skrulls he was good at leading a movement to escape while he got the other prisoners to join him in battling for their freedom. Captain America is a great war leader in combat that can get allegiance of forces to fight with him right away. In that way he’s potentially the greatest weapon on the superhero team because he’s good at running a huge army. He shows his beliefs that truth is universal of the freedom of all sentient beings of a belief of God in his old fashioned fundamental values, and that he leads with this truth. He brings this truth to extraterrestrial races. He questioned in truth to Loki, which in comics he also questioned Thanos while Thanos had the 6 Infinite gems and the Infinite gauntlet.

    He can be used that way in other plots like of Kree Skrull war, and if they get to many extraterrestrial races fighting against eachother in much more progressed plots. I don’t know if that involves Shi’ar Empire, and it would involve many races. I could see something cool with Captain America and the Starjammers in the Shi’ar Empire. The Starjammers can live longer because of extraterrestrial technology, but they’re Scott Summers’s parents who Scott Summers in Fox Marvel is 49 years old right now, so is Jean Grey. Captain America is great with team spirit and morale to get even extraterrestrial races to join him in a huge war who otherwise wouldn’t have the bravery and would get slaughtered, and he turns them into a huge combat army right away.

    Captain Marvel Carol Danvers travels to many planets and develops multi cultures of extraterrestrial races as apart of her story arcs. She has many multi-cultural extraterrestrial uniforms, and has learned many arts, sciences, and traditions of the extraterrestrial races’s planets she’s been to. In story arcs she’s apart of Avengers, SWORD at The Peak, and Guardians of the Galaxy at different times. She gets the Binary upgrades from experimentation of the Brood of white hole technology that make her far more powerful with the white hole energy. That’s long after she got her original super powers from an accident with the Kree Mar-Vell. Her most popular stories are newer from one writer that had been writing her for awhile, new stories could be being made based on that writer for Captain Marvel Carol Danvers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Danvers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACgiGv38uO8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgF_VMQ19aA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ah2I166f_U

    Movieweb has some cool renditions of the characters and they don’t look as cool in the movies. Cool renditions like the Dolph Lundgren Cable, Omega Red, and Old Man Logan.

    I haven’t read Old Man Logan but I think it’s in a Global Great Depression and not the post nuclear holocaust. There wouldn’t be an economy at all in a post nuclear holocaust or atleast it would be a more simple monetary system and bartering system. The post nuclear holocaust is more like Future Imperfect that would be in the 2060s with more organization after civilizations get used to no technology for about 10 years after 2054. Bruce Banner is renting out apartments in Old Man Logan, that Bruce Banner owns.

    The Global Great Depression began in 2037 because many resources including petroleum oil ran low and the rest is expensive to drill for. I think that 20% of the world economy is dependent on the gross, for world gross domestic product, of petroleum oil from the owners, to the drillers, to the middle men, to the gas stations, and to the electricity ran facilities generated by petroleum oil.

    Magneto was replenished to 30 years old prime internal age around the Avalon Island M Asteroid M event to where he will live longer than Professor Charles Xavier. In the movies I don’t know if they’re going to bring back Magneto’s internal age like in the comics. Magneto would originally be born around the mid 1930s. Charles Xavier would be born in 1945.

    The reason I don’t think it’s the post nuclear holocaust is that 80% of Americans would die in the first year because the electro-magnetic pulses shut off all of the world’s electrical devices which there would be no electricity for a half century afterwards. The world is so blunted it has to build back up without technology for decades before it can gain the manpower, know how, and resources to rebuild with electricity and technology.

    Old Man Logan is about a few years span sometime decades into the future where the story says he’s been in these conditions for many years. Within a year or two the entire American population would be extinct with virtually no civilization. The world population by 2053 will be 15 billion, and after the nuclear holocaust of 2054 the world’s population will be brought down to 7.5 billion while Americans have one of the worst survival rates compared to the Eastern Hemisphere. There will be many genocidal horseback battles of massive armies in the Eastern Hemisphere from 2063 to 2070, and by 2070 only 20% or less of the world’s population will survive from 3 billion, or 1.5 billion, or 500 million.

    2099 makes sense where the world is rebuilding itself with technology and Dr. Doom’s past self from the modern timeline is transported there to be a hero and help rebuild while he’s been a villain in many cases in the modern timeline. The technology is also beyond the peak of the mid 21st century, and 2099 shows a somewhat futuristic but broken society. Future Imperfect is post nuclear holocaust.

    In Old Man Logan, Hulk didn’t die. Hulk has a powerful healing ability. Like Logan, if Hulk temporarily dies his healing ability will bring him back to life. Logan has died atleast once in the movies, which is when Magneto threw him into a lake after wrapping him in metal in X-Men: Days of Future Past. The other time Logan died in the movies is now non-canon because with the partial reboot X-Men Origins: Wolverine is no longer canon also such as how you saw Stryker had Wolverine under mind control as Weapon X in X-Men: Apocalypse.

    With the partial reboot, Deadpool is born at a different time to where in 1979 Wade Wilson would just be born. Magneto looked a little young in X-Men: Apocalypse when he’s supposed to be almost 50 years old. Charles Xavier is 38 years old. That’s how Hulk lives on to Future Imperfect as the psychopath Maestro.

    In The Wolverine, Silver Samurai could still be alive with half of Wolverine’s healing ability. Wolverine could have only gotten half of the healing ability back to explain how he’s aging with diminishing powers in Old Man Logan. Logan would need some of his healing ability to extract his claws, and in The Wolverine he still had some of his healing ability when the spider mechanism went into his heart to temporarily shut down most of his mutant ability. He could possibly extract his claws without the healing ability and I wonder what that would be like and how well he can extract his claws like that.

    Another explanation is that Wolverine is just showing a lot of damage from pollution, and a nutrient deficiency from depleted soil. The farming crops aren’t nearly as good where there’s not nearly as many minerals in soil. Wolverine’s healing ability is aggressive, and he could “age” with oxidation if he doesn’t replenish nutrients for his healing ability. He’ll still heal but he’ll show more free radical damage as the healing ability saps him without getting the nutrients back. Hair can turn grey or white without proper nutrients like without minerals. Logan could go out hunting and catch his own animals to eat which that could make a big difference, but maybe he doesn’t.

    This is the Marvel Universe, and guys like Dr. Doom, Magneto, and Red Skull could improve conditions alot in a post nuclear holocaust compared to how it would happen in a world without superheroes and supervillains. There could be different mechanics of how the Marvel Multiverse operates. For the movies the explanation for how Magneto didn’t die of old age would need to be there, such as in the comics he was put through technology that brought him back to prime 30 years internal age. Otherwise Magneto could only live from 1935 or so to 2055 for a 120 years lifespan. Charles Xavier could live for a total of a 120 year lifespan from 1945 to 2065. Raven could live for longer because of her mutant ability. While Hulk has a rapid healing ability it doesn’t prevent him from aging, unlike Wolverine.

    I think Nathaniel Essex of Essex Corp. was collecting as many mutant DNA samples as he could from Stryker’s research to create a powerful mutant body to resurrect Apocalypse into. Through a ritual Apocalypse’s non-physical being can be summoned and brought into a living host to inhabit. Mr. Sinister hasn’t collected Apocalypse’s blood, and later on Apocalypse can also be brought back by his blood after his resurrection. Another time Apocalypse returned as a child incarnation to grow from there. This adult resurrected body will be powerful, but it won’t have nearly the level of destructive power as the body he previously had in the movie. The new body is a lot more physical but still has some powerful psionic abilities.

    When Apocalypse is resurrected through his blood, or in ritual, and when he resurrects as a child he keeps all of his previous memory and knowledge from thousands of years. After his ritual resurrection he also either talks directly to the Celestials or he goes to one of his many pyramids or his Celestial spaceship to get the mutant Celestial upgrades to attach to his DNA to get other abilities to grow over time. If he’s incinerated again this time he has some of his blood stored so that he can get his previous mutant abilities without Mr. Sinister having to collect samples and a host body again. Odin has told Thor, that Apocalypse was given the task by the Celestials to be the evolutionary caretaker of Earth.

    Apocalypse will rely on Shadow King, Mr. Sinister, and his Four Horesmen a lot more. Apocalypse may also guide the Marauders (such as through Caliban) and Hellfire Club as a hidden influence. We could get a story of Marauders and Morlocks eventually such as Mutant Massacre getting into the culture, but without the Royal Rumble so it doesn’t copy Last Stand which lacked depth in the writing of the various mutant groups and gangs. This creative pursuit has a lot of the idealism and leadership from Mr. Sinister while En Sabah is still the guy in charge.

    Wolverine’s healing ability would be apart of Apocalypse’s healing ability. Apocalypse would resurrect without any of his original accumulated mutant powers but he still has his vast scientific knowledge. Apocalypse will then be on a quest for ultimate power with the M’Kraan crystal and the 12 (the God mutant baby was originally apart of the plan but he got a much older Cable instead) to possess The Living Tribunal and rule the Marvel Multiverse, but he also has a lot of other plans and assaults like the stories of X-Factor and in X-Cutioner’s Song. He goes back to his quest for world rule after he fails the 12 (such as the story Blood of Apocalypse that’s like the Apocalypse part of Fall of the Mutants), but doesn’t rule the world until the 37th century, 38th century, and 39th century.

    Sometime later in the 21st century Mr. Sinister betrays him like what Mr. Sinister also eventually planned in Age of Apocalypse to where Apocalypse does it on his own in the 37th century, 38th century, and 39th century. Apocalypse will have the cool shape shifting and metal shifting abilities this time around also with size changing dimensions and lots of other abilities. In the modern timeline outside of Age of Apocalypse, Apocalypse can spread out his appearances such as Cable, X-Force, New Mutants, and X-Factor while they can vary the villains with X-Men.

    That gives enough variation of villains throughout the X franchises. He would still also appear in X-Men movies but other villains for X-Men are Deathbird, Proteus (he’s not really a villain), Goblin Queen (Madelyne Pryor clone, Dark Phoenix) with N’Astirh and S’ym, Master Mold, Cameron Hodge, Magneto with Asteroid M (after he’s been a professor for X-Men for awhile operating a child mutant team as Professor Max), and Onslaught to name a few. As an idea Mojo of Mojoworld and the Mojoverse could be an X-Force enemy and Shatterstar enters into the story. Deadpool could enter into X-Force and New Mutants stories. They could also bring in Peter Parker’s Spiderman of Marvel Studios and Sony in there, such as with X-Force and Deadpool, if they explain the few major possible canon issues between Marvel Studios and Sony Marvel, and Fox’s Marvel. Peter Parker Spiderman is everywhere in New York including Avengers, SHIELD, the X-Tower, the X-Mansion, Baxter Building, etc.

    If they make Age of Apocalypse in movies it could be similar to where while Charles Xavier died decades earlier, Magneto has been in charge of the X-Men and Phoenix still incinerated Apocalypse’s body into oblivion in the 1980s. The same ritual took place for Apocalypse to be resurrected, but because Apocalypse is in the middle of ruling a portion of the world he has a lot more mutant samples to where he’s upgraded himself a lot moreso years later compared to post resurrection Apocalypse in the modern timeline while Apocalypse I think also gets ahold of the M’Kraan Crystal from the Shi’ar Empire.

    In Age of Apocalypse, how Magneto and his forces were able to beat the X-Men: Evolution Apocalypse, is that Magneto didn’t suppress the students’ mutant abilities and so the students are more effective warriors. He helped Jean Grey to develop her Phoenix abilities in advance, and she incinerated Apocalypse when Apocalypse made his appearance after coming to consciousness in 1983. In 1983, after thousands of years before he awoke Apocalypse’s unconscious body was still alive but with no heart rate because he has a massive amount of negative hydrogen ions collected from sun energy attracted by one of his many pyramids he siphoned into himself while he was laying down on the altar which preserved his body against oxidation while unconscious for thousands of years. He also had a special magical seal around his body so that no oxidation enters his body while the negative hydrogen ions preserve his body. Before movie Days of Future Past took place, Charles Xavier kept his students suppressed and they weren’t nearly as effective in the modern timeline. During movie Days of Future Past, Charles Xavier was given insight from his future self to where he no longer suppressed his mutant students after 1973 but he was just learning it while that was Magneto’s principal in Age of Apocalypse timeline since the 1960s.

    The Celestials left Apocalypse a lot of technology such as a Celestial spaceship with both ancient and advanced technology to explain the higher Godlike extraterrestrial technology of the pyramids. Apocalypse also developed his own additional spaceships to carry his forces through outerspace like what he does in the modern timeline in comics such as, as far as to the Shi’ar Empire. A lot of Apocalypse’s resources haven’t been shown, and Apocalypse may rely on his resources a lot more without the level of powers he had in X-Men: Apocalypse. X-Men: Apocalypse was based on X-Men: Evolution Apocalypse. Apocalypse has been in communication with superhumans like the Eternals and Elder Eternals, the Celestials, and with various extraterrestrial races for many thousands of years before he went into his long unconsciousness before reawakening in the 1980s.

    In the comics, En Sabah Nur was first born in 3000BC, but in the movies En Sabah Nur says he himself is older than ten thousand years old. In the comics, En Sabah Nur was conscious throughout 5000 years since 3000BC to study civilization as he recruited scientists and followers throughout the ages who he shared his blood to close followers where it gives them immortality if they have enough of it. Throughout the ages he would go into unconsciousness in temporary periods as he recharges his body with chi in the Lazarus Chambers. The pyramids were made to attract and pull in more sun rays for more chi energy.

    He would also go into a meditation while his physical body is unconscious while he interacts with the higher realms, and to influence as an ancestor like what the mummified remains are meant for with the Egyptian kings in their pyramids as a place to store extra chi so they can influence in their non-physical bodies with their mummified physical bodies as a conduit that the extra gold stores also works as a gold conduit with their other special types of stones stored. With enough of the blood it begins to grow Celestial like mutant technology in them to develop more and more enhancements as time goes on like what happens with Archangel and Mr. Sinister in the comics.

    Apocalypse only gives enough blood to some of his followers to where with world rule while he shares some of his blood he doesn’t give enough to the mass followers for them to have immortality. Apocalypse had regularly traveled through outer-space with advanced sub-space technology based on sun fusion where the Celestial spaceship is alive, sentient, self repairing, and it stores 1.5 gigaton TNT yield of clean sun energy from any sun it’s nearby as it’s maximum storage.

    Age of Apocalypse can be in several multi-franchise movies of X franchises instead of being one contained movie. That’s how it was in the comics as it spanned all of the X franchises as the biggest story of the X-Men series. That way there can be up to 10 age of Apocalypse movies in 4 years that play many movies in each year while they go back to their modern timeline canon after that. The first two years can have 3 movies a year, and the next two years can have a couple movies to add up and complete Age of Apocalypse. It’s a very visually intense story. All of the Marvel companies can also create this with 2099 where they can have a temporary change and then go back to their original lineup.

    Cable isn’t a clone. He was taken from the best reproductive samples of Scott Summers and Jean Grey. The fertilized egg was genetically modified to have optimal qualities of the best egg Mr. Sinister could find. In the 39th century stories it’s revealed that Apocalypse wanted to inhabit the host body of Nathan Dayspring Summers when he’s a young adult and Apocalypse can’t inhabit a cloned body which is why Madelyne Pryor can’t be Nathan Dayspring Summers’s mother. Clan Askani of Rachel Summers and Madame Sanctity Tanya Trask made Stryfe believe he’s Nathan Dayspring Summers who’s a clone, who was created as a cloned baby of the Nathan Dayspring Summers baby in the 39th century, that’s set in place to be kidnapped by Apocalypse in the 39th century. Apocalypse thought it was Nathan Dayspring Summers and that he had been healed of the techno-organic virus but when he tried to inhabit Stryfe’s body, he failed in the process because Stryfe is a clone. That also means that Nathan Dayspring Summers can’t be based on Madelyne Pyror’s DNA, because Madelyne Pyror is a clone of Jean Grey created by Mr. Sinister.

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    Like if Captain America were captured by the Skrulls he was good at leading a movement to escape while he got the other prisoners to join him in battling for their freedom. Captain America is a great war leader in combat that can get allegiance of forces to fight with him right away. In that way he’s potentially the greatest weapon on the superhero team because he’s good at running a huge army. He shows his beliefs that truth is universal of the freedom of all sentient beings of a belief of God in his old fashioned fundamental values, and that he leads with this truth. He brings this truth to extraterrestrial races. He questioned in truth to Loki, which in comics he also questioned Thanos while Thanos had the 6 Infinite gems and the Infinite gauntlet.

    He can be used that way in other plots like of Kree Skrull war, and if they get to many extraterrestrial races fighting against eachother in much more progressed plots. I don’t know if that involves Shi’ar Empire, and it would involve many races. I could see something cool with Captain America and the Starjammers in the Shi’ar Empire. The Starjammers can live longer because of extraterrestrial technology, but they’re Scott Summers’s parents who Scott Summers in Fox Marvel is 49 years old right now, so is Jean Grey. Captain America is great with team spirit and morale to get even extraterrestrial races to join him in a huge war who otherwise wouldn’t have the bravery and would get slaughtered, and he turns them into a huge combat army right away.

    Captain Marvel Carol Danvers travels to many planets and develops multi cultures of extraterrestrial races as apart of her story arcs. She has many multi-cultural extraterrestrial uniforms, and has learned many arts, sciences, and traditions of the extraterrestrial races’s planets she’s been to. In story arcs she’s apart of Avengers, SWORD at The Peak, and Guardians of the Galaxy at different times. She gets the Binary upgrades from experimentation of the Brood of white hole technology that make her far more powerful with the white hole energy. That’s long after she got her original super powers from an accident with the Kree Mar-Vell. Her most popular stories are newer from one writer that had been writing her for awhile, new stories could be being made based on that writer for Captain Marvel Carol Danvers.

    Movieweb has some cool renditions of the characters and they don’t look as cool in the movies. Cool renditions like the Dolph Lundgren Cable, Omega Red, and Old Man Logan.

    I haven’t read Old Man Logan but I think it’s in a Global Great Depression and not the post nuclear holocaust. There wouldn’t be an economy at all in a post nuclear holocaust or atleast it would be a more simple monetary system and bartering system. The post nuclear holocaust is more like Future Imperfect that would be in the 2060s with more organization after civilizations get used to no technology for about 10 years after 2054. Bruce Banner is renting out apartments in Old Man Logan, that Bruce Banner owns.

    The Global Great Depression began in 2037 because many resources including petroleum oil ran low and the rest is expensive to drill for. I think that 20% of the world economy is dependent on the gross, for world gross domestic product, of petroleum oil from the owners, to the drillers, to the middle men, to the gas stations, and to the electricity ran facilities generated by petroleum oil.

    Magneto was replenished to 30 years old prime internal age around the Avalon Island M Asteroid M event to where he will live longer than Professor Charles Xavier. In the movies I don’t know if they’re going to bring back Magneto’s internal age like in the comics. Magneto would originally be born around the mid 1930s. Charles Xavier would be born in 1945.

    The reason I don’t think it’s the post nuclear holocaust is that 80% of Americans would die in the first year because the electro-magnetic pulses shut off all of the world’s electrical devices which there would be no electricity for a half century afterwards. The world is so blunted it has to build back up without technology for decades before it can gain the manpower, know how, and resources to rebuild with electricity and technology.

    Old Man Logan is about a few years span sometime decades into the future where the story says he’s been in these conditions for many years. Within a year or two the entire American population would be extinct with virtually no civilization. The world population by 2053 will be 15 billion, and after the nuclear holocaust of 2054 the world’s population will be brought down to 7.5 billion while Americans have one of the worst survival rates compared to the Eastern Hemisphere. There will be many genocidal horseback battles of massive armies in the Eastern Hemisphere from 2063 to 2070, and by 2070 only 20% or less of the world’s population will survive from 3 billion, or 1.5 billion, or 500 million.

    2099 makes sense where the world is rebuilding itself with technology and Dr. Doom’s past self from the modern timeline is transported there to be a hero and help rebuild while he’s been a villain in many cases in the modern timeline. The technology is also beyond the peak of the mid 21st century, and 2099 shows a somewhat futuristic but broken society. Future Imperfect is post nuclear holocaust.

    In Old Man Logan, Hulk didn’t die. Hulk has a powerful healing ability. Like Logan, if Hulk temporarily dies his healing ability will bring him back to life. Logan has died atleast once in the movies, which is when Magneto threw him into a lake after wrapping him in metal in X-Men: Days of Future Past. The other time Logan died in the movies is now non-canon because with the partial reboot X-Men Origins: Wolverine is no longer canon also such as how you saw Stryker had Wolverine under mind control as Weapon X in X-Men: Apocalypse.

    With the partial reboot, Deadpool is born at a different time to where in 1979 Wade Wilson would just be born. Magneto looked a little young in X-Men: Apocalypse when he’s supposed to be almost 50 years old. Charles Xavier is 38 years old. That’s how Hulk lives on to Future Imperfect as the psychopath Maestro.

    In The Wolverine, Silver Samurai could still be alive with half of Wolverine’s healing ability. Wolverine could have only gotten half of the healing ability back to explain how he’s aging with diminishing powers in Old Man Logan. Logan would need some of his healing ability to extract his claws, and in The Wolverine he still had some of his healing ability when the spider mechanism went into his heart to temporarily shut down most of his mutant ability. He could possibly extract his claws without the healing ability and I wonder what that would be like and how well he can extract his claws like that.

    Another explanation is that Wolverine is just showing a lot of damage from pollution, and a nutrient deficiency from depleted soil. The farming crops aren’t nearly as good where there’s not nearly as many minerals in soil. Wolverine’s healing ability is aggressive, and he could “age” with oxidation if he doesn’t replenish nutrients for his healing ability. He’ll still heal but he’ll show more free radical damage as the healing ability saps him without getting the nutrients back. Hair can turn grey or white without proper nutrients like without minerals. Logan could go out hunting and catch his own animals to eat which that could make a big difference, but maybe he doesn’t.

    This is the Marvel Universe, and guys like Dr. Doom, Magneto, and Red Skull could improve conditions alot in a post nuclear holocaust compared to how it would happen in a world without superheroes and supervillains. There could be different mechanics of how the Marvel Multiverse operates. For the movies the explanation for how Magneto didn’t die of old age would need to be there, such as in the comics he was put through technology that brought him back to prime 30 years internal age. Otherwise Magneto could only live from 1935 or so to 2055 for a 120 years lifespan. Charles Xavier could live for a total of a 120 year lifespan from 1945 to 2065. Raven could live for longer because of her mutant ability. While Hulk has a rapid healing ability it doesn’t prevent him from aging, unlike Wolverine.

    I think Nathaniel Essex of Essex Corp. was collecting as many mutant DNA samples as he could from Stryker’s research to create a powerful mutant body to resurrect Apocalypse into. Through a ritual Apocalypse’s non-physical being can be summoned and brought into a living host to inhabit. Mr. Sinister hasn’t collected Apocalypse’s blood, and later on Apocalypse can also be brought back by his blood after his resurrection. Another time Apocalypse returned as a child incarnation to grow from there. This adult resurrected body will be powerful, but it won’t have nearly the level of destructive power as the body he previously had in the movie. The new body is a lot more physical but still has some powerful psionic abilities.

    When Apocalypse is resurrected through his blood, or in ritual, and when he resurrects as a child he keeps all of his previous memory and knowledge from thousands of years. After his ritual resurrection he also either talks directly to the Celestials or he goes to one of his many pyramids or his Celestial spaceship to get the mutant Celestial upgrades to attach to his DNA to get other abilities to grow over time. If he’s incinerated again this time he has some of his blood stored so that he can get his previous mutant abilities without Mr. Sinister having to collect samples and a host body again. Odin has told Thor, that Apocalypse was given the task by the Celestials to be the evolutionary caretaker of Earth.

    Apocalypse will rely on Shadow King, Mr. Sinister, and his Four Horesmen a lot more. Apocalypse may also guide the Marauders (such as through Caliban) and Hellfire Club as a hidden influence. We could get a story of Marauders and Morlocks eventually such as Mutant Massacre getting into the culture, but without the Royal Rumble so it doesn’t copy Last Stand which lacked depth in the writing of the various mutant groups and gangs. This creative pursuit has a lot of the idealism and leadership from Mr. Sinister while En Sabah is still the guy in charge.

    Wolverine’s healing ability would be apart of Apocalypse’s healing ability. Apocalypse would resurrect without any of his original accumulated mutant powers but he still has his vast scientific knowledge. Apocalypse will then be on a quest for ultimate power with the M’Kraan crystal and the 12 (the God mutant baby was originally apart of the plan but he got a much older Cable instead) to possess The Living Tribunal and rule the Marvel Multiverse, but he also has a lot of other plans and assaults like the stories of X-Factor and in X-Cutioner’s Song. He goes back to his quest for world rule after he fails the 12 (such as the story Blood of Apocalypse that’s like the Apocalypse part of Fall of the Mutants), but doesn’t rule the world until the 37th century, 38th century, and 39th century.

    Sometime later in the 21st century Mr. Sinister betrays him like what Mr. Sinister also eventually planned in Age of Apocalypse to where Apocalypse does it on his own in the 37th century, 38th century, and 39th century. Apocalypse will have the cool shape shifting and metal shifting abilities this time around also with size changing dimensions and lots of other abilities. In the modern timeline outside of Age of Apocalypse, Apocalypse can spread out his appearances such as Cable, X-Force, New Mutants, and X-Factor while they can vary the villains with X-Men.

    That gives enough variation of villains throughout the X franchises. He would still also appear in X-Men movies but other villains for X-Men are Deathbird, Proteus (he’s not really a villain), Goblin Queen (Madelyne Pryor clone, Dark Phoenix) with N’Astirh and S’ym, Master Mold, Cameron Hodge, Magneto with Asteroid M (after he’s been a professor for X-Men for awhile operating a child mutant team as Professor Max), and Onslaught to name a few. As an idea Mojo of Mojoworld and the Mojoverse could be an X-Force enemy and Shatterstar enters into the story. Deadpool could enter into X-Force and New Mutants stories. They could also bring in Peter Parker’s Spiderman of Marvel Studios and Sony in there, such as with X-Force and Deadpool, if they explain the few major possible canon issues between Marvel Studios and Sony Marvel, and Fox’s Marvel. Peter Parker Spiderman is everywhere in New York including Avengers, SHIELD, the X-Tower, the X-Mansion, Baxter Building, etc.

    If they make Age of Apocalypse in movies it could be similar to where while Charles Xavier died decades earlier, Magneto has been in charge of the X-Men and Phoenix still incinerated Apocalypse’s body into oblivion in the 1980s. The same ritual took place for Apocalypse to be resurrected, but because Apocalypse is in the middle of ruling a portion of the world he has a lot more mutant samples to where he’s upgraded himself a lot moreso years later compared to post resurrection Apocalypse in the modern timeline while Apocalypse I think also gets ahold of the M’Kraan Crystal from the Shi’ar Empire.

    In Age of Apocalypse, how Magneto and his forces were able to beat the X-Men: Evolution Apocalypse, is that Magneto didn’t suppress the students’ mutant abilities and so the students are more effective warriors. He helped Jean Grey to develop her Phoenix abilities in advance, and she incinerated Apocalypse when Apocalypse made his appearance after coming to consciousness in 1983. In 1983, after thousands of years before he awoke Apocalypse’s unconscious body was still alive but with no heart rate because he has a massive amount of negative hydrogen ions collected from sun energy attracted by one of his many pyramids he siphoned into himself while he was laying down on the altar which preserved his body against oxidation while unconscious for thousands of years. He also had a special magical seal around his body so that no oxidation enters his body while the negative hydrogen ions preserve his body. Before movie Days of Future Past took place, Charles Xavier kept his students suppressed and they weren’t nearly as effective in the modern timeline. During movie Days of Future Past, Charles Xavier was given insight from his future self to where he no longer suppressed his mutant students after 1973 but he was just learning it while that was Magneto’s principal in Age of Apocalypse timeline since the 1960s.

    The Celestials left Apocalypse a lot of technology such as a Celestial spaceship with both ancient and advanced technology to explain the higher Godlike extraterrestrial technology of the pyramids. Apocalypse also developed his own additional spaceships to carry his forces through outerspace like what he does in the modern timeline in comics such as, as far as to the Shi’ar Empire. A lot of Apocalypse’s resources haven’t been shown, and Apocalypse may rely on his resources a lot more without the level of powers he had in X-Men: Apocalypse. X-Men: Apocalypse was based on X-Men: Evolution Apocalypse. Apocalypse has been in communication with superhumans like the Eternals and Elder Eternals, the Celestials, and with various extraterrestrial races for many thousands of years before he went into his long unconsciousness before reawakening in the 1980s.

    In the comics, En Sabah Nur was first born in 3000BC, but in the movies En Sabah Nur says he himself is older than ten thousand years old. In the comics, En Sabah Nur was conscious throughout 5000 years since 3000BC to study civilization as he recruited scientists and followers throughout the ages who he shared his blood to close followers where it gives them immortality if they have enough of it. Throughout the ages he would go into unconsciousness in temporary periods as he recharges his body with chi in the Lazarus Chambers. The pyramids were made to attract and pull in more sun rays for more chi energy.

    He would also go into a meditation while his physical body is unconscious while he interacts with the higher realms, and to influence as an ancestor like what the mummified remains are meant for with the Egyptian kings in their pyramids as a place to store extra chi so they can influence in their non-physical bodies with their mummified physical bodies as a conduit that the extra gold stores also works as a gold conduit with their other special types of stones stored. With enough of the blood it begins to grow Celestial like mutant technology in them to develop more and more enhancements as time goes on like what happens with Archangel and Mr. Sinister in the comics.

    Apocalypse only gives enough blood to some of his followers to where with world rule while he shares some of his blood he doesn’t give enough to the mass followers for them to have immortality. Apocalypse had regularly traveled through outer-space with advanced sub-space technology based on sun fusion where the Celestial spaceship is alive, sentient, self repairing, and it stores 1.5 gigaton TNT yield of clean sun energy from any sun it’s nearby as it’s maximum storage.

    Age of Apocalypse can be in several multi-franchise movies of X franchises instead of being one contained movie. That’s how it was in the comics as it spanned all of the X franchises as the biggest story of the X-Men series. That way there can be up to 10 age of Apocalypse movies in 4 years that play many movies in each year while they go back to their modern timeline canon after that. The first two years can have 3 movies a year, and the next two years can have a couple movies to add up and complete Age of Apocalypse. It’s a very visually intense story. All of the Marvel companies can also create this with 2099 where they can have a temporary change and then go back to their original lineup.

    Cable isn’t a clone. He was taken from the best reproductive samples of Scott Summers and Jean Grey. The fertilized egg was genetically modified to have optimal qualities of the best egg Mr. Sinister could find. In the 39th century stories it’s revealed that Apocalypse wanted to inhabit the host body of Nathan Dayspring Summers when he’s a young adult and Apocalypse can’t inhabit a cloned body which is why Madelyne Pryor can’t be Nathan Dayspring Summers’s mother. Clan Askani of Rachel Summers and Madame Sanctity Tanya Trask made Stryfe believe he’s Nathan Dayspring Summers who’s a clone, who was created as a cloned baby of the Nathan Dayspring Summers baby in the 39th century, that’s set in place to be kidnapped by Apocalypse in the 39th century. Apocalypse thought it was Nathan Dayspring Summers and that he had been healed of the techno-organic virus but when he tried to inhabit Stryfe’s body, he failed in the process because Stryfe is a clone. That also means that Nathan Dayspring Summers can’t be based on Madelyne Pyror’s DNA, because Madelyne Pyror is a clone of Jean Grey created by Mr. Sinister.

    1. DAAAMMNNNN Daniel (my bad but I just had to start with that 😉 …those are some very well-thought out comments. And I agree, the merger of studios, and timelines can still be fixed if the writers decide to sit down and do it. But I don’t think they will any time soon. Sigh! I remember Simon Kinberg saying that he hoped the audience wouldn’t notice the timeline and plot holes when they were promoting DoFP, but guess what, we all did cos we care about the franchise….and yeah, whether the Fox and Disney merger occurs or not I agree that the Apocalypse threat should’ve been divided into more movies. Apocalypse is too big a X-Men villain to be done justice in a single movie…they could’ve done a DoFP thing again (which made a lot of money) by battling Apocalypse in the past and help prevent an Apocalyptic world in the future. But this time instead of sending Wolverine back they could’ve send the young versions into the future and had them all team up with their older selves for interesting interactions, etc. to take down a big threat.

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